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Hero of the Day

Joined: 11 Mar 2006
Posts: 11

PostPosted: 3/14/2006, 8:29 pm    Post subject: administrator acting innapropriately Reply with quote

this is the first time I ever had a problem with this staff member , other than occasionally he lacked tact (he used to flame people for being stupid).

the version of events is thas
one of my regular visitors caught me in chat room and pointed me to a thread. I looked at it and it was spam about using sheep for nefarious purposes.

LATER: I find out from another member that it was originally spam about an online dating site and that my administrator edited it to say what it did about sheep. Needless to say I was not happy

I would have rather he deleted the post/topic and banned the spammer NOT edited it.

also when is it okay for an admin or mod to edit a users post (even if it is spam) I wrote my rules so that they are only allowed to edit to fix formatting issues.

thoughts on these problems?
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Triumvirate

Joined: 10 Sep 2005
Posts: 262
Location: New York, USA

PostPosted: 3/14/2006, 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's always been my feeling that there are very few times when it is good to have more than 1 admin. One of those instances is when you know the other people personally and the other is if they are being paid to be an admin/co-admin on a forum.

That having been said here's my view of it:
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one of my regular visitors caught me in chat room and pointed me to a thread. I looked at it and it was spam about using sheep for nefarious purposes.
This post I assume was removed (I don't normally delete posts, only move them to a "trash" forum that only mods/admins can see for archival/documentation purposes).

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LATER: I find out from another member that it was originally spam about an online dating site and that my administrator edited it to say what it did about sheep. Needless to say I was not happy

I would have rather he deleted the post/topic and banned the spammer NOT edited it.
First thing hopefully you checked with your admin about that first (by contacting him privately). Normally I would give staff a chance to explain themselves or say they did/didn't do it before jumping to any conclusions. For instance, what is the user who reported the admin's record like? Does this user just not like the admin? Was it possible that the post was never edited and the user made it up to make the admin look bad? Can anyone else verify that the post had said something about a dating site originally? Can you verify that the post was in fact edited?

If you are positive he did do it then not only would I personally expect them to get rid of it, if they did edit it in that way they should be at very least immediately removed from staff if not banned themselves.

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also when is it okay for an admin or mod to edit a users post (even if it is spam) I wrote my rules so that they are only allowed to edit to fix formatting issues.

thoughts on these problems?
Almost never. By almost I mean like 99.9% of the time. It's my opinion that it isn't my job as a mod/admin to babysit users, it is to make them aware of violations, and to do that I must remove the violation first and then inform them about it somehow (privately is always best). The only times I may edit a post is, let's say, if someone forgets there ending /code or /quote tags or something along those lines. I may edit the post to put it in because it will help everyone that way and make it more readable.

If you have in your rules that they are only supposed to edit for formatting and he knowingly (or unknowlingly, it should be the responsibility of the person to read any guidelines you have, not your responsibility to direct them to it every time they think about posting) broke that rule then, once again, he shouldn't be on staff, and, probably shouldn't be a member of your site.

That's just my opinion though.
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Hero of the Day

Joined: 11 Mar 2006
Posts: 11

PostPosted: 3/15/2006, 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well only the guy who does my web work has admin acess besides me and the this staffer who has been around forever

actually it was one person that pointed me too the post

then another who has a good record and I trust that later told me what the post originally said

I am seriously looking for an oppurtunity to bump this guy down though. My new thinking is the only administrator will be myself
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Truestar
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Joined: 10 Sep 2005
Posts: 807
Location: New York, United States

PostPosted: 3/15/2006, 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hero of the Day wrote:
I am seriously looking for an oppurtunity to bump this guy down though. My new thinking is the only administrator will be myself


Approach him/her. Tell them you aren't liking the way things are going, and they need to change. You are the owner of the board aren't you? Even if he is an administrator, you are the owner. And in the end you call the shots. Tell them, this is what they are doing, and this is what you want them to do.

Warn them, tell them that if they can't cooperate with the rules and appropriate administrating, they will be removed from the status.

Don't jump the gun though, that can make you look bad. Smile
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Patrick
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Joined: 28 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: 3/15/2006, 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pretty much agree with Brandon. If it's a rule and he broke it, at the very least, he needs a very firm talking to. If you didn't have rules for this, they need to be crafted and everyone should read them and they should be strictly enforced from there.

The editing post thing varies by community and administrator, but personally, we don't really edit anything.
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Hero of the Day

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PostPosted: 3/15/2006, 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was forced to draft the rules (still refining them as I pick up new ideas from people on here) after that incident

and yes I intend to strictly enforce them from now on
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