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A.I. BOT
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| is adsense free, or is this somethign u have to pay for from google? |
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Patrick
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drathbun
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| Posted: 10/5/2005, 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| A.I. BOT wrote: |
| is adsense free, or is this somethign u have to pay for from google? |
It depends on which direction you're coming from. If you want to bid on keywords and have your ads show up on other web sites, you pay for that. If you want to display adsense advertisements on your forum or other web site, there are no sign-up or setup charges or ongoing fees. They provide a bit of javascript that you include on the appropriate pages (don't put it in overall_header.tpl or overall_footer.tpl 'cause they don't allow it on all pages, read the TOS for details) and that's it.
I was up and running in 20 minutes. 
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A.I. BOT
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| Posted: 10/5/2005, 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Ah very nice I got my adsense stuff now  took about 45mins for my link to get vailided. |
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beggers
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Location: Las Vegas
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| Posted: 10/7/2005, 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't use adsense, but as a user of some forums that have adsense, I will say that it is quite annoying to read a thread with embedded ads. I find I'm more likely to click an ad if it's in the footer or side. When an ad is stuck in my reading area, I just get annoyed and do my best to ignore it. |
How do you manage to watch TV? Shows are frequently interrupted with ads and people seem to have no problem with them. Why do Internet ads bother you so much?
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drathbun
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| Posted: 10/9/2005, 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| How do you manage to watch TV? Shows are frequently interrupted with ads and people seem to have no problem with them. Why do Internet ads bother you so much? |
Suppose that you were watching tv and a commercial was dropped right in the middle of a sentence... how would you feel then? That, to me, is what having ads in the middle of a content stream feels. Television is a relatively mature environment. We're used to commercials every 10 minutes. We're used to the fact that a 30 minute show is really only 22 minutes.
Most of the forums I visit do not attempt to put ads inline with the content. When I start to read a topic I can read from the top to the bottom of the page without interruption. In my opinion, that's the way it should be. In my case, advertising is a supplement to my content. In other words, I'm not bringing people to my site just to send them off away on some other site right away. I want them to read the content, think about it, and, oh yeah, look here are some more related links at the bottom of the page.
Sure, it's a personal decision. But I think that inline ads are soon going to rate right up with banners as to how quickly users ignore them.
As a google adsense user myself, I find myself wondering what's the point of some sites that I visit. The top of the page is advertisements. The next third of the page is google adsense links. I have to actually scroll down in order to see any actual content. That site clearly is setting their priority on generating ad revenue rather than delivering content. That's a site that I will not be visiting again. Just my two cents.
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Triumvirate
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Location: New York, USA
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I'm not sure that I really have all that much of a problem with it. Or at least I don't when it is below the first post, because, in my opinion, that is a logical breaking point. It wouldn't be equivalent to cutting a show off mid-sentence really it would be more equivalent to simply showing the commercial after a break in the conversation.
What I mean is, the first post, is essentially the point before all discussion on that topic begins or comparing it to a TV show it's that pre-opening credits couple of minutes where they set up the story for the episode. Then after that the rest of the posts continue as normal, progressing just as the show does.
That all said, I would find it annoying if an ad appeared after every post in a topic. And I personally wouldn't put inline ads on my site just because I don't really like the way they look. As a user of sites that do though, I never find them much of a bother or annoyance.
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I found a link to the following article from Google that shows optimal ad placement for forums. Their "hottest" spot was a skyscraper ad on the left side of the screen, the second hottest were just above or below the first post in the topic.
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http://adsense.blogspot.com/2005/10/six-adsense-optimization-tips-for.html
As I said previously, each community owner should make their own decision. I've stated mine and the reasons behind it. If may be that taking a different approach would make me more money. But I feel that the additional income (if there were any) would not offset my personal preferences for how the forum content should be displayed.
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| Posted: 10/10/2005, 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Nice to see AdSense come out with some stuff for forums.
When I started testing this out, I started it on 4 of my sites (my 4 most active). I've now taken off of 2 of them because it just wasn't worth it. And it may be taken off the other 2 as well depending on how they perform. I might remove the ad entirely or I might try something else. If performance is poor, there is no reason for it to be there. If I take it off, I may reintroduce it in the future. Nothing is permenant and nothing is forever.
Has anyone tried the left skyscraper thing? I've been thinking about it, but really, I'm not sure I'd really like the look of it.
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