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Hero of the Day

Joined: 11 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: 4/16/2006, 9:34 am    Post subject: spammers Reply with quote

have been having a particular problem with the 'mail.ru' domain (some sort of free email site it appears, and appears to have poor or no security measures in place), now these are mainly make 6-8 pointless posts (such as: "cool topic") in one day and dissapear ( dont know for how long, never really given them a chance to come back), and usually have a link in their profile
I determined that it was machine spam, and it was defeating phpbb's visual confirmation
I had my webmaster/coder go through the database and look for the 'mail.ru' email
heres a screenshot
http://forums.streetrod3.com/download.php?id=602

I ended up banning the entire 'mail.ru' domain, however
I am looking for input on other visual confirmation systems and any other methods or ideas I might use to prevent of help deal with this problem. Because I get the feeling that eventually they will figure out to use a different email
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~HG~

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Location: Australia

PostPosted: 4/16/2006, 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just happened to post some info on this subject on phpBBHacks yesterday.

http://www.phpbbhacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=60992
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Thoul

Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: 4/16/2006, 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had some of these mail.ru bots not too long ago, also. They do indeed bypass phpBB's visual confirmation. There are a couple of hacks, one at phpBB.com and one at phpBBHacks, that replace the confirmation image with a different one that's a bit harder to crack. I installed one of those and haven't noticed any more obvious bot registrations.
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Nick

Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: 4/16/2006, 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thoul wrote:
I had some of these mail.ru bots not too long ago, also. They do indeed bypass phpBB's visual confirmation. There are a couple of hacks, one at phpBB.com and one at phpBBHacks, that replace the confirmation image with a different one that's a bit harder to crack. I installed one of those and haven't noticed any more obvious bot registrations.
Do you have a specific link by chance?
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Hero of the Day

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PostPosted: 4/16/2006, 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres an overview of an idea my coder has been working on
1) remove the 'website' and 'signature' fields on the registration page (a user would have to set these after the account is activated)
2) use a script to check and see if the 'user' signing up is passing a value for either of the missing fields (since the two fields are not visible this means its a spam script)
3) the script then automatically enters the ban into the database if it finds data being passed for either of the two missing fields. It is set up to ban both the IP and the email
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~HG~

Joined: 25 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: 4/16/2006, 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Nick

http://www.phpbbhacks.com/download/6276
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Thoul

Joined: 14 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: 4/16/2006, 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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heres an overview of an idea my coder has been working on
1) remove the 'website' and 'signature' fields on the registration page (a user would have to set these after the account is activated)
2) use a script to check and see if the 'user' signing up is passing a value for either of the missing fields (since the two fields are not visible this means its a spam script)
3) the script then automatically enters the ban into the database if it finds data being passed for either of the two missing fields. It is set up to ban both the IP and the email


If you have HTML turned off in your forum configuration, you could check the allow HTML field on registration, too. The mail.ru bots I had set that field to On (a value of 1 in the database), even though it was removed from the registration form.
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Patrick
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Joined: 28 Aug 2005
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Location: Harbinger, NC, U.S.A.

PostPosted: 4/17/2006, 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I get these all the time. Every "smilie spammer" I've ever had (to my knowledge) was on a mail.ru domain. The thing is that we have the phpBB standard visual confirmation AND e-mail confirmation. So, not only do they have to get by the visual confirmation, but then they have to visit the link in the e-mail in the e-mail they are sent.
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